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Remastered Games
Arm of this fall will release a “super deluxe collectors’ box set” that will feature remastered versions of the band’s eight albums on both CD and 180-gram audiophile vinyl, plus all 25 of the group’s singles on individual 7-inches — as well as prints, posters and a DVD of music videos. Packaged in a “heavyweight trunk” and limited to 3,000 copies worldwide, the colossal box set is slated to ship Oct. 3, and is priced at £249.99 — or about U.S. $410 — through It’s not yet clear whether Rhino’s U.S. Operation also will release the collection.
The heart of the set are the band’s eight albums — and plus compilations and and the live album — that have been remastered by guitarist and engineer from “the original tape sources.” In a statement announcing the release, Marr is quoted as saying, “I’m very happy that the remastered versions of The Smiths albums are finally coming out. I wanted to get them sounding right and remove any processing so that they now sound as they did when they were originally made. On at Not having heard TSoTS, but seeing your comment, I had to laugh when I read Marr’s “quote” from a “released statement”. Having written many press releases in my day, I can tell you that the people quoted in those documents never EVER say the things they’re quoted as saying. Those quotes are made up to suit the goals of the press release by the person who wrote the rest of the release. If what you say is true and the remastering job was a brickwall disaster, then this makes this set an easy pass.
The principal draw for me is a 180g audiophile vinyl remastered (properly, mind you) version of “Hatful of Hollow”. Warner/Rhino know damn well this is the compilation that hardcore fans love, and have withheld releasing it on its own which is unbelievably cynical, but good marketing. I feel like this is the box set I’ve been waiting since middle school for, but if I’m not sure that the remastering was done properly, it’s impossible for me to consider shelling out $330 for just the vinyl set to be shipped from Britain. Moreover, I called Rhino to inquire after a domestic release of this box set and was told that Rhino UK & Rhino US almost never release the same content, meaning this will not see a stateside release if that is to be believed. On at Lee, you should be scared of the remastering. As I noted above, I wasted money on the 2009 Marr remasters on vinyl and they are lifeless — too much brickwalling — about 5db to 10db of reduction in dynamic range.
That’s going backwards not forwards. The originals sound much better. It’s most notable in the drums, they are completely dull — so the recording lacks snap and punch, also sounds bad the louder you turn it up which is common with brickwalling. I ripped the vinyl to 24 bit / 96 kHz and it sounds lousy compared to the orignal vinyl. Although it sounds zippy on the iTunes store if that’s where people want to listen to it! On at I have to agree with several of the others who posted that the Marr “supervised” remasters sucked the life out of the originals. I was excited to buy “The Queen Is Dead” on vinyl only to rip it and realize that the original CD sounded better than this remaster.
They just made the recording louder / hotter so that it could sound louder on iTunes, that has no value with a vinyl release. So I don’t get it. Why buy a remaster that sounds less intense just so the band can get some more sales from iTunes on the mp3 version. Meanwhile, I’m going to hunt down the orignal vinyls — maybe the price will come down on the vintage stuff due to these lame remasters.
On at on remasters in general: sometimes, the ‘magic’ of hearing that recording for the first time, and, the years its companionship burnt itself into your memories, is totally lost on remasters. The new life and clarity remasters often have, is a let down. In other views, a remaster can let you hear an angle of a sound or clarify a word thats been sung that you misheard ALL these years. For me, and this new smiths remaster, ive not had a chance to listen to everything, or back to back, but subtle things are just different (note, not improved).
On meat is murder, ‘well i wonder’, i really hear the acoustic guitar more. ‘what she said’ its very clear morrissey is saying (tattooed boy from “birkenhead”, (up til now i though he was saying birmingham). Im not one to google a song for song lyrics, so i never knew this, up til now with the remasters. Sometimes its the other way around, the US cd of ‘yaz’ “Upstairs at erics” was so murky.
The UK pressing of the cd besides the 2 bonus tracks, was so much clearer. The cocteau twins remasters. Hmm, all the murky mystery was GONE in the remasters, i dont think i re-listened since. I’m glad i have multiple pressings of things, cause like the peter gabriel original vs. Sacd there are SO many differences.
On the depeche mode ones, sadly, its very awkward. To the point where ‘oh geez, martin sings that line on the original version, this is dave singing it!’, so little surprises happen.